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Episode 21 features an interview with Steve Weins. Steve is the author of Whole and Beginnings. He is the pastor of Genesis Covenant Church and had a podcast called This Good Word. This interview is packed with great stuff – what an amazing conversation! We spend most of the time speaking about Steve’s latest book, but it is a pretty free wheeling conversation. So much fun!
Get Steve’s latest book, Whole: Restoring What is Broken in Me, You, and The Entire World
Some of What We Talk About:
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The wide inclusivity of restoration.
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What is broken and why do we need restoration?
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Shalom as wholeness (restoring what is broken)
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Moving to wholeness is a hopeful journey
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The arc that shoots through all of scripture is restoration
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What is the difference between a self-improvement project and a journey?
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How you find joy in the everyday, and why is joy important?
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He asked Eugene Peterson, “what do you think pastors are struggling with today?” The answer is so great, and tough to hear.
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What is the connection between the promised land and restoration, and why do we need to be strong and courageous in entering the promised land?
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We talked a lot about the temptation of Jesus, and what it means to think of Jesus as weak when we relate to him.
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Laying down the need to be seen as successful.
Quotes in this Episode
- “Faith is a lot more about mystery than it is about mastery.”
- “Mystery is not something we can never understand, it’s something that we can endlessly understand.” Richard Rohr
- “What if pastors are supposed to be the people who model how to rest well…”
- “The promised land is not where all of our problems are solved… It is the place where you remember what it was like to be a slave and you begin fighting for the restoration of others.”
- “Thank God that God doesn’t wait for perfect motivation.”
- “There are things that need to change in me; they just won’t be changed by feeling bad about myself or trying really hardto fix them. That isn’t how wholeness works. The journey of wholeness is not a self-improvement project. It’s a journey of loss, trust, transformation, and eventually hope.” from Whole
- “…my own joy and enjoyment matter in measuring at least some of the metrics for indicating a successful Steve. I think I’m starting to learn that I can be a joyful pastor. Not a driven one, not a busy one, not a heroic one.” from Whole
Links and Resources:
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Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ’s Childhood Pal by Christopher Moore
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